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Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:13
da sberla54
Ciao.

Mi sono accorto da alcuni giorni che Conky, non so bene per qual motivo, mi mostra una statistica dello spazio libero sui dischi diversa da quella che mi mostra df, che immagino sia' piu' affidabile.

In questo preciso momento, df -h mi da come output:

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bash-3.1$ df -h
Filesystem         Dimens. Usati Disp. Uso% Montato su
/dev/root              19G   15G  3,8G  79% /
/dev/sda3             402G  366G   16G  96% /home
/dev/sdb1             459G  114G  322G  27% /disco02
tmpfs                1011M     0 1011M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdc1             459G  390G   46G  90% /external01
mentre secondo Conky gli spazi disponibili sono:
root: 4.7 Gb
home : 35 Gb
disco02: 345 Gb

Questa e' la mia config di Conky, che non cambio da parecchio:

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######################################################################
#
# sberla54 - conkyrc - 24.12.2008
# orologio, data, monitor di banda, monitor cpu, uptime, kernel, 
# versione di slackware pazio libero/occupato in root ed home, 
# lista processi che usano piu' cpu, lista processi che occupano piu' ram, 
# numero connessioni in entrata ed uscita, ultimi log da messages e secure,
# larghezza massima limitata
#
######################################################################
# The list of variables has been removed from this file in favour
# of keeping the documentation more maintainable.
# Check http://conky.sf.net for an up-to-date-list.
#

# set to yes if you want Conky to be forked in the background
background yes
#background no
# X font when Xft is disabled, you can pick one with program xfontsel
#font 5x7
#font 6x10
#font 7x13
#font 8x13
#font 9x15
#font *mintsmild.se*
#font -*-*-*-*-*-*-34-*-*-*-*-*-*-*


# Use Xft?
use_xft yes

# Set conky on the bottom of all other applications
#on_bottom no

# Xft font when Xft is enabled
xftfont Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:size=8

# Text alpha when using Xft
xftalpha 0.8

# Print everything to stdout?
# out_to_console no

# MPD host/port
# mpd_host localhost
# mpd_port 6600
# mpd_password tinker_bell

# Print everything to console?
# out_to_console no

# mail spool
#mail_spool $MAIL

# Update interval in seconds
# update_interval 5.0
update_interval 3.0

# This is the number of times Conky will update before quitting.
# Set to zero to run forever.
total_run_times 0

# Create own window instead of using desktop (required in nautilus)
own_window yes

# If own_window is yes, you may use type normal, desktop or override
own_window_type override

# Use pseudo transparency with own_window?
own_window_transparent yes

# If own_window_transparent is set to no, you can set the background colour here
#own_window_colour hotpink

# Use double buffering (reduces flicker, may not work for everyone)
double_buffer yes

# Minimum size of text area
# minimum_size 80 5
minimum_size 80 5

# Draw shades?
draw_shades yes

# Draw outlines?
draw_outline no

# Draw borders around text
draw_borders no

# Draw borders around graphs
draw_graph_borders yes

# Stippled borders?
stippled_borders 8

# border margins
border_margin 6

# border width
border_width 1

# Default colors and also border colors
default_color white
default_shade_color black
default_outline_color black

# Text alignment, other possible values are commented
#alignment top_left
alignment top_right
#alignment bottom_left
#alignment bottom_right
#alignment none

# Gap between borders of screen and text
# same thing as passing -x at command line
gap_x 12
gap_y 110

# Subtract file system buffers from used memory?
no_buffers yes

# set to yes if you want all text to be in uppercase
uppercase no

# number of cpu samples to average
# set to 1 to disable averaging
cpu_avg_samples 2

# number of net samples to average
# set to 1 to disable averaging
net_avg_samples 2

# Force UTF8? note that UTF8 support required XFT
override_utf8_locale no


# Add spaces to keep things from moving about?  This only affects certain objects.
use_spacer no

#   mldonkey_hostname     Hostname for mldonkey stuff, defaults to localhost
#   mldonkey_port         Mldonkey port, 4001 default
#   mldonkey_login        Mldonkey login, default none
#   mldonkey_password     Mldonkey password, default none

# boinc (seti) dir
# seti_dir /opt/seti

# Allow for the creation of at least this number of port monitors (if 0 or not set, default is 16) 
#min_port_monitors 16

# Allow each port monitor to track at least this many connections (if 0 or not set, default is 256)
#min_port_monitor_connections 256

# none, xmms, bmp, audacious, infopipe (default is none)
#xmms_player none

# Minimum size of text area
minimum_size 260 5
maximum_width 400

# Possible variables to be used:
#
#    Variable         Arguments              Description                

#  addr              (interface)     IP address for an interface
#  acpiacadapter                     ACPI ac adapter state.                   
#  acpifan                           ACPI fan state                           
#  acpitemp                          ACPI temperature.                        
#  adt746xcpu                        CPU temperature from therm_adt746x       
#  adt746xfan                        Fan speed from therm_adt746x             
#  alignr            (num)           Right-justify text, with space of N
#  alignc                            Align text to centre
#  battery           (num)           Remaining capasity in ACPI or APM        
#                                    battery. ACPI battery number can be      
#                                    given as argument (default is BAT0).     
#  buffers                           Amount of memory buffered                
#  cached                            Amount of memory cached                  
#  color             (color)         Change drawing color to color            
#  cpu                               CPU usage in percents                    
#  cpubar            (height)        Bar that shows CPU usage, height is      
#                                    bar's height in pixels                   
#  cpugraph          (height),(width) (gradient colour 1) (gradient colour 2)
#                                    CPU usage graph
#  downspeed         net             Download speed in kilobytes              
#  downspeedf        net             Download speed in kilobytes with one     
#                                    decimal                                  
#  downspeedgraph    net (height),(width) (gradient colour 1) (gradient colour 2)
#                                    Download speed graph
#  exec              shell command   Executes a shell command and displays    
#                                    the output in conky. warning: this      
#                                    takes a lot more resources than other    
#                                    variables. I'd recommend coding wanted   
#                                    behaviour in C and posting a patch :-).  
#  execbar           shell command   Same as exec, except if the first value
#                                    return is a value between 0-100, it
#                                    will use that number for a bar.
#                                    The size for the bar is currently fixed,
#                                    but that may change in the future.
#  execgraph         shell command   Same as execbar, but graphs values
#  execi             interval, shell Same as exec but with specific interval. 
#                    command         Interval can't be less than              
#                                    update_interval in configuration.        
#  fs_bar            (height), (fs)  Bar that shows how much space is used on 
#                                    a file system. height is the height in   
#                                    pixels. fs is any file on that file      
#                                    system.                                  
#  fs_free           (fs)            Free space on a file system available    
#                                    for users.                               
#  fs_free_perc      (fs)            Free percentage of space on a file       
#                                    system available for users.              
#  fs_size           (fs)            File system size                         
#  fs_used           (fs)            File system used space                   
#  hr                (height)        Horizontal line, height is the height in 
#                                    pixels                                   
#  i2c               (dev), type, n  I2C sensor from sysfs (Linux 2.6). dev   
#                                    may be omitted if you have only one I2C  
#                                    device. type is either in (or vol)       
#                                    meaning voltage, fan meaning fan or
#                                    temp/tempf (first in C, second in F)
#                                    meaning temperature. n is number of the  
#                                    sensor. See /sys/bus/i2c/devices/ on     
#                                    your local computer.                     
#  if_running        (process)       if PROCESS is running, display
#                                    everything if_running and the matching $endif
#  if_existing       (file)          if FILE exists, display everything between
#                                    if_existing and the matching $endif
#  if_mounted        (mountpoint)    if MOUNTPOINT is mounted, display everything between
#                                    if_mounted and the matching $endif
#  else                              Text to show if any of the above are not true
#  kernel                            Kernel version                          
#  linkstatus        (interface)     Get the link status for wireless connections
#  loadavg           (1), (2), (3)   System load average, 1 is for past 1     
#                                    minute, 2 for past 5 minutes and 3 for   
#                                    past 15 minutes.                         
#  machine                           Machine, i686 for example                
#  mails                             Mail count in mail spool. You can use    
#                                    program like fetchmail to get mails from 
#                                    some server using your favourite         
#                                    protocol. See also new_mails.            
#  mem                               Amount of memory in use                  
#  membar            (height)        Bar that shows amount of memory in use   
#  memmax                            Total amount of memory                   
#  memperc                           Percentage of memory in use
#  
#  metar_ob_time
#  metar_temp
#  metar_tempf                      Temp in F
#  metar_windchill
#  metar_dew_point                   There are a bunch of these
#  metar_rh                          and they are self-explanatory
#  metar_windspeed
#  metar_winddir
#  metar_swinddir
#  metar_cloud
#  metar_u2d_time

#  ml_upload_counter                 total session upload in mb
#  ml_download_counter               total session download in mb
#  ml_nshared_files                  number of shared files
#  ml_shared_counter                 total session shared in mb, buggy
#                                    in some mldonkey versions
#  ml_tcp_upload_rate                tcp upload rate in kb/s
#  ml_tcp_download_rate              tcp download rate in kb/s
#  ml_udp_upload_rate                udp upload rate in kb/s
#  ml_udp_download_rate              udp download rate in kb/s
#  ml_ndownloaded_files              number of completed files
#  ml_ndownloading_files             number of downloading files
#  
#  mpd_artist			    Artist in current MPD song
#                                    (must be enabled at compile)
#  mpd_album			    Album in current MPD song
#  mpd_bar           (height)        Bar of mpd's progress
#  mpd_bitrate                       Bitrate of current song
#  mpd_status                        Playing, stopped, et cetera.
#  mpd_title			    Title of current MPD song
#  mpd_vol			    MPD's volume
#  mpd_elapsed                       Song's elapsed time
#  mpd_length                        Song's length
#  mpd_percent                       Percent of song's progress
#  new_mails                         Unread mail count in mail spool.         
#  nodename                          Hostname                                 
#  outlinecolor      (color)         Change outline color                     
#  pre_exec          shell command   Executes a shell command one time before 
#                                    conky displays anything and puts output 
#                                    as text.                                 
#  processes                         Total processes (sleeping and running)   
#  running_processes                 Running processes (not sleeping),        
#                                    requires Linux 2.6                       
#  shadecolor        (color)         Change shading color                     
#  stippled_hr       (space),        Stippled (dashed) horizontal line        
#                    (height)        
#  swapbar           (height)        Bar that shows amount of swap in use     
#  swap                              Amount of swap in use                    
#  swapmax                           Total amount of swap                     
#  swapperc                          Percentage of swap in use                
#  sysname                           System name, Linux for example           
#  offset            pixels          Move text over by N pixels
#  tail              logfile, lines (interval)
#                                    Displays last N lines of supplied text
#                                    text file.  If interval is not supplied,
#                                    Conky assumes 2x Conky's interval.
#                                    Max of 30 lines.
#                                    Max of 30 lines can be displayed.
#  time              (format)        Local time, see man strftime to get more 
#                                    information about format                 
#  totaldown         net             Total download, overflows at 4 GB on     
#                                    Linux with 32-bit arch and there doesn't 
#                                    seem to be a way to know how many times  
#                                    it has already done that before conky   
#                                    has started.                            
#  top               type, num      This takes arguments in the form:
#                                    top <name> <number>
#                                    Basically, processes are ranked from 
#                                    highest to lowest in terms of cpu
#                                    usage, which is what <num> represents.
#                                    The types are: "name", "pid", "cpu", and
#                                    "mem".
#                                    There can be a max of 10 processes listed.
#  top_mem           type, num       Same as top, except sorted by mem usage
#                                    instead of cpu
#  totalup           net             Total upload, this one too, may overflow 
#  updates                           Number of updates (for debugging)        
#  upspeed           net             Upload speed in kilobytes                
#  upspeedf          net             Upload speed in kilobytes with one       
#                                    decimal                                  
#  upspeedgraph      net (height),(width) (gradient colour 1) (gradient colour 2)
#                                    Upload speed graph
#  uptime                            Uptime                                   
#  uptime_short                      Uptime in a shorter format               
#
#  seti_prog                         Seti@home current progress
#  seti_progbar      (height)        Seti@home current progress bar
#  seti_credit                       Seti@hoome total user credit

# variable is given either in format $variable or in ${variable}. Latter
# allows characters right after the variable and must be used in network
# stuff because of an argument

# stuff after 'TEXT' will be formatted on screen
# 
# UNUSED:
# ${color #e9c703}Messages:
# $color${execi 10 /usr/bin/tail -n 5 /var/log/messages | cut -c 23-}

TEXT
${alignc}${execi 10 /usr/bin/cat /etc/slackware-version}
${alignc}$sysname $kernel on $machine/ $freq Mhz
${alignc}${color lightgrey}Uptime:$color $uptime ${color lightgrey}- Load:$color $loadavg
$stippled_hr
${alignc}${color}${time %A} ${color}${time %e %B %G}
${alignc}${color}${time %H:%M:%S}
$stippled_hr
${color lightgrey}CPU Usage:${color #cc2222} $cpu% ${cpubar}
${color red}${cpugraph 0000ff 00ff00}
${color lightgrey}RAM  Usage:$color $mem / $memmax - $memperc% ${membar}
${color lightgrey}Swap Usage:$color $swap / $swapmax -  $swapperc% ${swapbar}
${color lightgrey}Processes:$color $processes  ${color grey}Running:$color $running_processes
$color$stippled_hr
${color lightgrey}Networking: $alignr $nodename
eth0 $alignr ${addr eth0}
   Down:${color #8844ee} ${downspeed eth0} ${color lightgrey} ${offset 80}Up:${color #22ccff} ${upspeed eth0}
${color #0000ff}${downspeedgraph eth0 32,150 ff0000 0000ff} ${color #22ccff}       ${upspeedgraph eth0 32,150 0000ff ff0000}
${color #888888}   TOTAL: ${color #CCCCCC}${totaldown eth0}	             ${color #888888}TOTAL: ${color #CCCCCC}${totalup eth0}
$color$stippled_hr
${color lightgrey}File System:
/      $color${fs_free /}/${fs_size /} ${fs_bar /}
/home/ $color${fs_free /home/}/${fs_size /home/} ${fs_bar /home/}
/disco02/ $color${fs_free /disco02/}/${fs_size /disco02/} ${fs_bar /disco02/}
$color$stippled_hr
${color}Name                  PID     CPU%   MEM%
${color #ddaa00} ${top name 1}     ${top pid 1} ${top cpu 1} ${top mem 1}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 2}     ${top pid 2} ${top cpu 2} ${top mem 2}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 3}     ${top pid 3} ${top cpu 3} ${top mem 3}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 4}     ${top pid 4} ${top cpu 4} ${top mem 4}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 5}     ${top pid 5} ${top cpu 5} ${top mem 5}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 6}     ${top pid 6} ${top cpu 6} ${top mem 6}
${color lightgrey} ${top name 7}     ${top pid 7} ${top cpu 7} ${top mem 7}
${color}Mem Usage
${color #ddaa00} ${top_mem name 1}     ${top_mem pid 1} ${top_mem cpu 1} ${top_mem mem 1}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 2}     ${top_mem pid 2} ${top_mem cpu 2} ${top_mem mem 2}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 3}     ${top_mem pid 3} ${top_mem cpu 3} ${top_mem mem 3}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 4}     ${top_mem pid 4} ${top_mem cpu 4} ${top_mem mem 4}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 5}     ${top_mem pid 5} ${top_mem cpu 5} ${top_mem mem 5}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 6}     ${top_mem pid 6} ${top_mem cpu 6} ${top_mem mem 6}
${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 7}     ${top_mem pid 7} ${top_mem cpu 7} ${top_mem mem 7}
$color$stippled_hr
${color #ddaa00}Port(s)${alignr}Connections   
$color Inbound  : ${tcp_portmon 1 65535 count}${alignr}ALL: ${tcp_portmon 1 65535 count}
$color Outbound : ${tcp_portmon 1 65535 count}
$color$stippled_hr
${color #e9c703}Security:
$color${execi 10 /usr/bin/tail -n 2 /var/log/secure}
e questo e' il pezzo di config che riguarda gli spazi disco:

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${color lightgrey}File System:
/      $color${fs_free /}/${fs_size /} ${fs_bar /}
/home/ $color${fs_free /home/}/${fs_size /home/} ${fs_bar /home/}
/disco02/ $color${fs_free /disco02/}/${fs_size /disco02/} ${fs_bar /disco02/}
Questo e' il mio mount

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/dev/root on / type ext3 (rw,errors=continue,data=ordered)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
/dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw)
/dev/sdb1 on /disco02 type ext3 (rw)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sdc1 on /external01 type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
e questo il mio fstab, nel caso dovessero servire:

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/dev/sda4        swap             swap        defaults         0   0
/dev/sda2        /                ext3        defaults         1   1
/dev/sda3        /home/           ext3        defaults         1   2
/dev/sda1        /win/            ntfs-3g     noauto,users,ro,umask=0000  1   0
/dev/sdb1        /disco02/        ext3        defaults         1   2
# /dev/cdrom      /mnt/cdrom       auto        noauto,owner,ro  0   0
# /dev/fd0        /mnt/floppy      auto        noauto,owner     0   0
devpts           /dev/pts         devpts      gid=5,mode=620   0   0
proc             /proc            proc        defaults         0   0
tmpfs            /dev/shm         tmpfs       defaults         0   0
# inserisco alcune righe dal vecchio fstab.
/dev/hdc         /mnt/cdwriter	  auto        noauto,users,ro   0   0
/dev/hdd         /mnt/cdrom       auto        noauto,users,ro   0   0
# questa configurazione funziona perfettamente se si avvia il pc con il 
# card reader gia' inserito in una porta dell'hub (ed il resto dell'hub vuoto). 
/dev/sdc1	     /external01  ext3        defaults,auto,users         1   2
/dev/sdd1	     /mnt/pen1	  vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sde1	     /mnt/pen2	  vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdf1	     /mnt/pen3	  vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdg1	     /mnt/pen4	  vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdh1	     /mnt/pen5    vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdi1	     /mnt/pen6    vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdm1	     /mnt/pen7    vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
/dev/sdn1	     /mnt/pen8    vfat 	      noauto,users,rw,umask=0000  0   0
A dire la verita' non so se fidarmi piu' di Conky o di df, perche' mi sembra assurdo di aver rimasto solo 10 gb liberi...
FileLight mi dice che sono utilizzati 381 Gb, contro i 366 di df...non capisco di chi mi debba fidare...

Ad ogni modo, avete idae del perche' Conky sbagli cosi' tanto?
C'e' un'altra sintassi da dargli nella config per far controllare lo spazio libero dei dischi?

Grazie come sempre :)

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:16
da conraid
sensazione...
sei fai df -H?

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:25
da Slhackagn
conraid ha scritto:sensazione...
sei fai df -H?
Dal man del df:
-H, --si
likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024

-h, --human-readable
print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:26
da conraid
Slhackagn ha scritto:
conraid ha scritto:sensazione...
sei fai df -H?
Dal man del df:
-H, --si
likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024

-h, --human-readable
print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)
:shock:

chissà perché ho chiesto l'output con -H :-k

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:35
da GioPower
Il mio conky con il mio conkyrc funziona bene (salvo arrotondamenti), ho provato il tuo (modificando i mount point naturalmente) e sembra ok.

Forse potrebbe essere utile sapere la versione del conky che usi (la mia e' la 1.7.1.1), magari e' un bug.
Hai provato con una live o Windows, se hai un dualboot, cosa ti dicono?

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: lun 31 ago 2009, 18:43
da sberla54
sensazione...
sei fai df -H?
dunque:
df -h

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bash-3.1$ df -h
Filesystem         Dimens. Usati Disp. Uso% Montato su
/dev/root              19G   15G  3,8G  79% /
/dev/sda3             402G  361G   21G  95% /home
/dev/sdb1             459G  103G  334G  24% /disco02
tmpfs                1011M     0 1011M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdc1             459G  390G   46G  90% /external01
df -H

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bash-3.1$ df -H
Filesystem            Dimens. Usati Disp. Uso% Montato su
/dev/root               21G    16G   4,1G  79% /
/dev/sda3              431G   387G    23G  95% /home
/dev/sdb1              493G   110G   358G  24% /disco02
tmpfs                  1,1G      0   1,1G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdc1              493G   418G    50G  90% /external01
pochi giga di differenza :)
Forse potrebbe essere utile sapere la versione del conky che usi (la mia e' la 1.7.1.1), magari e' un bug.
Questa: :)
conky-1.7.1.1-i486-1sl [inst=si]: Conky (A light-weight system monitor)
Hai provato con una live o Windows, se hai un dualboot, cosa ti dicono?
Ho dualboot ma di Windows mi fido ancora meno :)
Piu' tardi provo con Knoppix e vi dico qualcosa....intanto continuo a traslocare un po' di dati dal disco01 al disco02, perche' senno' lo 01 esplode :)

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: mar 1 set 2009, 9:31
da Slhackagn
conraid ha scritto:
Slhackagn ha scritto:
conraid ha scritto:sensazione...
sei fai df -H?
Dal man del df:
-H, --si
likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024

-h, --human-readable
print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)
:shock:

chissà perché ho chiesto l'output con -H :-k
:lol: :lol:

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: ven 13 nov 2009, 2:16
da sberla54
Ciao ragazzi, scusate il ritardo, sono stati mesi pesanti e non ho avuto molto tempo di curare le mie macchine :)

Ho provato df da live e da lo stesso identico output di quello da locale.

Locale:
/dev/root 19G 15G 3,8G 80% /
/dev/sda3 402G 342G 40G 90% /home
/dev/sdb1 459G 206G 230G 48% /disco02
Live:
/dev/sda2 19G 15G 3.8G 80% /media/sda2
/dev/sda3 402G 342G 40G 90% /media/sda3
/dev/sdb1 459G 206G 230G 48% /media/sdb1
Mentre Conky continua a dare valori tutti suoi:
Root: 4.6 liberi
Home: 59.9 liberi
Disco02: 253 liberi

Scazza...ed anche a casaccio...non e' da dire che abbia un errore di "+ TOT" fisso....da' proprio i numeri :)

Idee?
Altrimenti aspetto di aggiornare a Slack13 e vedere se si risolve tutto da solo...

A presto e grazie! :)

Re: Conky mostra lo spazio libero hard disk sbagliato

Inviato: mar 17 nov 2009, 14:35
da sberla54
Tanto per conoscenza, con l'installazione (da zero) di Slackware 13 il problema e' sparito...ora df e Conky concordano :)
Per me il problema e' risolto, ma rimane il mistero che l'ha causato :)