Kde 4.1..si inizia!

[jolly]

Io per l'ennesima volta ho provato ad installarlo su una Slackware 12.1 virtualizzata
(al momento ho ancora la 12 e ancora non ho tempo per passare alla nuova).
Ho provato prima con i pacchetti di Robby Workman,
poi con la guida di ksniffer nel wiki,
infine con i pacchetti mytux (ovviamente ogni volta su un sistema pulito).

Il risultato che ottengo è sempre lo stesso: da kdm accedo a KDE 4.1,
lo splash screen funziona correttamente ma appena termina il caricamento
mi ritrovo un desktop schiacciato a sinistra (prende 3/4 del monitor virtuale)
e tutto disturbato (come un televisore con problemi all'antenna, in bianco e nero).
Appena finisce di lampeggiare il mouse (dopo che il desktop ha caricato tutto),
improvvisamente sparisce tutto e mi ritrovo su kdm.

se accedi a kde 3, sempre sulla slack virtualizzata, ti da lo stesso errore o no?

io sospetto per ora che sia colpa della finestra...

[giberg]

Kde 3 funziona correttamente, così come Xfce.

*Edit:* dimenticavo... Virtualizzo con VirtualBox 1.5.2 OSE. Ho provato un'altra distribuzione con kde4 e funziona... Slackware no.

[jolly]

Kde 3 funziona correttamente, così come Xfce.

*Edit:* dimenticavo... Virtualizzo con VirtualBox 1.5.2 OSE. Ho provato un'altra distribuzione con kde4 e funziona... Slackware no.

cioè, kde3 ti va e kde4 no? hai installato tutto correttamente? lo xorg cosa dice (sospetto per la risoluzione)?

[giberg]

Allora...
xorg.conf "virtuale" è questo (non l'ho toccato):

Codice: Seleziona tutto

#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"
    #Load        "speedo"

# This loads the GLX module
    Load       "glx"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath	"/usr/share/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/"

# ModulePath can be used to set a search path for the X server modules.
# The default path is shown here.

#    ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option     "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#    Option     "DontVTSwitch"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option     "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option     "DontZoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option     "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.

#    Option     "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.

#    Option     "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option     "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

# Set the basic blanking screen saver timeout.

#    Option      "blank time"    "10"    # 10 minutes

# Set the DPMS timeouts.  These are set here because they are global
# rather than screen-specific.  These settings alone don't enable DPMS.
# It is enabled per-screen (or per-monitor), and even then only when
# the driver supports it.

#    Option      "standby time"  "20"
#    Option      "suspend time"  "30"
#    Option      "off time"      "60"

# On some platform the server needs to estimate the sizes of PCI
# memory and pio ranges. This is done by assuming that PCI ranges
# don't overlap. Some broken BIOSes tend to set ranges of inactive
# devices wrong. Here one can adjust how aggressive the assumptions
# should be. Default is 0.

# Option   "EstimateSizesAggresively" "0"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier	"Keyboard1"
    Driver	"kbd"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

# Set the keyboard auto repeat parameters.  Not all platforms implement
# this.

#    Option     "AutoRepeat"    "500 5"

# Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)).

#    Option     "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

#    Option     "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a European
# keyboard, you will probably want to use one of:
#
#    Option     "XkbModel"      "pc102"
#    Option     "XkbModel"      "pc105"
#
# If you have a Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#
#    Option     "XkbModel"      "microsoft"
#
# If you have a US "windows" keyboard you will want:
#
#    Option     "XkbModel"      "pc104"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#
#    Option     "XkbLayout"     "de"
#
# or:
#
#    Option     "XkbLayout"     "de"
#    Option     "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#
#    Option     "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:swapcaps"


# These are the default XKB settings for X.Org
#
#    Option     "XkbRules"      "xorg"
#    Option     "XkbModel"      "pc105"
#    Option     "XkbLayout"     "us"
#    Option     "XkbVariant"    ""
#    Option     "XkbOptions"    ""

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier	"Mouse1"
    Driver	"mouse"

# On platforms where PnP mouse detection is supported the following
# protocol setting can be used when using a newer PnP mouse:

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Auto"

# The available mouse protocols types that you can set below are:
#    Auto BusMouse GlidePoint GlidePointPS/2 IntelliMouse IMPS/2
#    Logitech Microsoft MMHitTab MMSeries Mouseman MouseManPlusPS/2
#    MouseSystems NetMousePS/2 NetScrollPS/2 OSMouse PS/2 SysMouse
#    ThinkingMouse ThinkingMousePS/2 Xqueue
    Option "Protocol"    "PS/2"

# The mouse device.  The device is normally set to /dev/mouse,
# which is usually a symbolic link to the real device.

    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"
#   Option "Device"      "/dev/psaux"
#   Option "Device"      "/dev/ttyS0"
#   Option "Device"      "/dev/ttyS1"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Option "Protocol"	"Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"		"9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"	"150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection

# Some examples of extended input devices

# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "My Monitor"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   31.5 - 50.0

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 40-90

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "VESA Framebuffer"
    Driver      "vesa"
    #VideoRam    4096
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "VESA Framebuffer"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"

# If your card can handle it, a higher default color depth (like 24 or 32)
# is highly recommended.

#   DefaultDepth 8
#   DefaultDepth 16
   DefaultDepth 24
#   DefaultDepth 32

# "1024x768" is also a conservative usable default resolution.  If you
# have a better monitor, feel free to try resolutions such as
# "1152x864", "1280x1024", "1600x1200", and "1800x1400" (or whatever your
# card/monitor can produce)

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       32
        Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubsection

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection

Ora provo a rifar partire kde 4 per vedere se trovo
qualche riga interessante nel log.

[giberg]

Credo sia questo il log che identifica l'errore...
Che sia proprio qualcosa riguardo al composite?

Codice: Seleziona tutto

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x80) [0x80dbde0]
1: [0xffffe420]
2: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7f012bc]
3: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7f05326]
4: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0(pixman_image_composite+0x568) [0xb7f04fb8]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so(fbComposite+0x1bb) [0xb7a45ffb]
6: /usr/bin/X [0x816a037]
7: /usr/bin/X(CompositePicture+0x157) [0x8150a57]
8: /usr/bin/X [0x80fd38d]
9: /usr/bin/X(compAllocPixmap+0x45) [0x80fd575]
10: /usr/bin/X(compCheckRedirect+0xae) [0x80fccae]
11: /usr/bin/X(compRealizeWindow+0x45) [0x80fcd85]
12: /usr/bin/X [0x807064d]
13: /usr/bin/X(MapWindow+0x1b5) [0x8072645]
14: /usr/bin/X(ProcMapWindow+0x67) [0x8086187]
15: /usr/bin/X [0x8147071]
16: /usr/bin/X(Dispatch+0x2cb) [0x808699b]
17: /usr/bin/X(main+0x496) [0x806ddb6]
18: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0xb7d7a390]
19: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x20d) [0x806d0e1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

[jolly]

domanda ignorante: kde4 supporta composite?

[giberg]

Sì, lo supporta.

[Meskalamdug]

domanda ignorante: kde4 supporta composite?

A voglia..
sia nativo con gli effetti di kwin,sia con
compiz che sotto kde4 gira più veloce.

[giberg]

Di default nelle ultime versioni è abilitato o disabilitato?

[Meskalamdug]

Di default nelle ultime versioni è abilitato o disabilitato?

Disabilitato
Tasto destro sulla barra in alto
configurazione della finestra
effetti del desktop e li abiliti.

[jolly]

sto installando kde 4... però non voglio avviarlo senza alcuni pacchetti (che su mytux mancano)

kdegames
kdeplasmoids

o non li trovo io, oppure mancano davvero! dove li posso trovare?

edit: scusate, avevo saltato un paio di post che spiegavano dove trovare i pack... sorry

[Meskalamdug]

Strano problema..quando uso
kde3 posso tenere anche gli
occhi attaccatti al monitor.
Se uso kde4..mi bruciano come
se non riuscissi a mettere a fuoco
l'immagine..da cosa può dipendere?
Ho provato come suggerito a abbassare
la luminosità del monitor,ma niente.

[conraid]

A me questo effetto lo fa l'antialiasing, motivo per cui non l'ho mai abilitato in nessun pc che uso.
Magari hanno cambiato algoritmo.
Purtroppo per me non è la sola cosa a produrmi tali effetti, ma spero che i tuoi occhi siano diversi dai miei

[Meskalamdug]

A me questo effetto lo fa l'antialiasing, motivo per cui non l'ho mai abilitato in nessun pc che uso.
Magari hanno cambiato algoritmo.
Purtroppo per me non è la sola cosa a produrmi tali effetti, ma spero che i tuoi occhi siano diversi dai miei

Nel 3.5 l'as è abilitato
eppure non provo nessun
fastidio,anzi..

[giberg]

Di default nelle ultime versioni è abilitato o disabilitato?

Disabilitato
Tasto destro sulla barra in alto
configurazione della finestra
effetti del desktop e li abiliti.

Allora non capisco cosa mi dia quei problemi...